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A couple thoughts:

- Electricity

In other parts of the country, data centers are generating their own power rather than using power from the grid. This can be a bad option, but it doesn't have to be. One option is to use hydrogen fuel cells to supply the electricity, which by happy coincidence Rochester already has local expertise in this area. PlugPower, which has local facilities, has recently released a webinar on this topic.

https://www.plugpower.com/webinar-reducing-grid-strain-and-supporting-operational-growth-with-fuel-cells/

It's no surprise that STREAM doesn't want to investing it's own money in power generation when RG&E will happily sell them the electricity, but that's not a good reason to burden rate payers with extra costs.

- Water

As with electricity, STREAM obviously doesn't want to invest it's own money to provide water when the Monroe County Water Authority will sell them water. But it's interesting that STREAM doesn't plan to use water to cool the servers in this proposed facility. I'm going to speculate that they are not going to use water either because 1) MCWA can't provide them with sufficient quantities of water, and / or 2) the water that MCWA can provide isn't cold enough.

Those of us with good memories will recall that there have been previous efforts to use Lake Ontario water to provide cooling. Xerox investigated this back in the 1990's, and the Town of Webster initiated another study in the early 2010's. I don't know why this was never implemented, but I will guess that a curious member of the county legislature could find out. Those studies were focused on using lake water to chill (air condition) facilities, but a similar concept can be used to chill computer servers. Here's an article about the more recent effort.

https://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/news/2014/06/30/webster-lake-ontario-cold-industry/11798879/

Assuming that the barrier to using Lake Ontario water to chill a data center located at STAMP is supply and/or water temperature, one must wonder if STAMP is the wrong location for STREAM's data center. Perhaps Webster or another location closer to Lake Ontario would be a better choice.

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AI has the potential to ease suffering and cure disease and make life beautiful and feed and educate the vulnerable. But we all know what will happen: The fascists will steal our faces. And our privacy. And our freedom. And our money. And our homes. And our resources. And our climate. They will bribe our town and city leaders. And our leaders and our media will lie about it. And the WHAM listeners and the FOX watchers in their red hats will believe the lies because they can make a stupid movie with their face in it on their phone. We don’t need data centers. We don’t need more entertainment. We need a future. We are so fucked.

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